"Why Is Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship Angry still?

 The false Spin Game – Evangelicals and their pastors do play now too often.. Not just the professing Christian Evangelical  Prime Minister Stephen Harper too.. It does still seems most Christian professing people in leadership abuse others and do lie too

 The spin game  Great Florida Outpouring – Endorsements Posted on June 17, 2008. A number of leaders in the Body of Christ are going to be in Lakeland on June 23th to bless the Outpouring. Bill Johnson, Che Ahn, C. Peter Wagner, John and Carol Arnott, among others, will be there according to the announcement Todd made last night.” 20 selective comments so far.. real negative comments are excluded. I have to admit that bless the Outpouring” of God sounds too pharisaical especially when  and we saw next the final blessing results.. the preacher Todd Bentley next  was forced to resign for doing un Christ like things now too.. even though he was sincere.. gifted too..   
 
  Two sides of the same story. My local Baptist Church pastor had told me what an reliable, honorable man my father in law was, Iguess he was buttering me up for a donation.. a bit just shortly after that I went to a funeral of my father in law’s relative. There the close relatives told me first hand a whole different story. My father in law was a womanizer, a boozer, had been even separated from his wife as well, and had been kick out of a Brethren church cause they considered him and his acts as being non Christian. Next I really could not see anything Christian about him now as well..  Telling lies is a sin even for a pastor now too.

Sow the wrong seed and you can also next reap a whirl wind , church pastors included now, and there is really no such thing as a little bit allowable sins for pastors included, no such thing as being a  little bit pregnant here too.. and it is still clearly unacceptable for any Pastors to counsel a man’s wife behind his back and without his knowledge, approval,  permission, but even this sadly an unacceptable  common occurrence in evangelical churches now too, even in the Brethren, Baptist, Alliance and Pentecostals churches now too.. and this is how the war against the perverse pastors’ of the Toronto airport church and other similar bad churches  had next escalated. When any spouse starts to talk to others about their family affairs they now are next definitely  headed towards divorce wars as well..
 
Many many pastors do wrongfully still  think that the citizens complaints about them  is all a big joke, they laugh at it, mock them too. Don’t believe me, just  do an internet search “Walter Kambulow” and see their poor  responses to his writings. Pastors falsely think they are above the law and yet many of them have, do  threaten to sue you when you get too close and personal about them. They want it both ways, they cannot though. They the evangelical pastors firstly do need to get real, to act like real Christians firstly now and work for God rather then self. They seem to have nice cars, nice homes, great salaries, expensive perks, vacations and too too many of them.. Pastors Jim Baker,  Jimmy Swaggart was not the first or last pervert, crook. The bad pastors are trying to get falsely their rewards on earth it seems  and not in heaven.. Do what I say and not what I do is what they also preach.
 
Most people also  are not aware that the Canadian Pentecostal assemblies of Canada churches PAOC are a break away penteocstals  from the Christian Missionary Alliance church firstly, the CMA is the church of Stephen Harper Canad’s prime Minister  and they both do have a very similar church management structure, a corporation with a corporate president even that does not disclose all the expenditures to the all of the donators now too. .. not your expected  congregationally managed, owned local church .. 
 
 
There is no denial as to how cold, ruthless, uncompassionate, uncaring, immoral, ruthless, slanderous, gossiping, abusive the majority of evangelical pastors where in my own many personal encounters experiences Canada wide too   that I had  but I did rightfully did not throw about the baby with the dirty wash water. Rather I rightfully tended to ask the bad pastors and their bad supporters now too to change to repent instead..
 
Now  ”Why Is Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship Angry?  Posted by Job on May 29, 2008  Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship – the home of the liars and perjurers including John Arnott and Steve Long – are upset for being exposed for what they truly are sons of disobedience and sons of hell  and are taking at least one person to court contrary to scriptures to protest about his online books which are too hot for them to handle!
 
They are also upset because this person has asked  “So for the good of all Canadians and the rule of law, the Honorable Prime Minister of Canada, Stephen Harper, through the different Canadian Government agencies, should order an immediate investigation of this nonprofit charity Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship and ensure that it’s nonprofit corporation status be revoked especially as the executives of TACF have used the charity to pay off their mortgages and purchase luxury cars tax free. See http://www.fstdt.com/forums/thread.aspx?t=1524 5 and http://cnt10c.tripod.com/tb.htm
 
 They are also upset because this former member has asked the government authorities to investigate why it is okay for TACF Vice President Steve Long to publically solicit by mail for tax free funds to pay off TACF President John Arnott mortgage but  not publically solicit by mail to pay for this former member mortgage as well as all his legal costs as a result of TACF nonprofit charity suing this former member because he blew the whistle on their crimes, thievery, hypocrisy, lies, perjury, sins, etc.
 
 It’s also amazing that we have operating freely in Toronto Canada,  liars, perjurers and thieves in Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship including John Arnott and Steve Long with impunity or without rebuke from anybody about their financial crimes, their hate crimes, lies and perjury!
 
But it’s not amazing that these scoundrels, liars, and perjurers would not submit  as per “The order of Justice James H. Clarke of  January 15, 2008” which stated “ THIS COURT ORDERS THAT the Defendants shall serve on the Plaintiff by email and file their Statement of Defense within ten days,”  a Statement of Defense to this former member regarding his $100 million dollar Lawsuit Court File No: 6447/07 filed in Milton, Ontario, with the Superior Court of Ontario and now revised to $ 300 million.
 
 And if this Christian nonprofit charity TACF and its executives John Arnott and Steve Long can defy and ignore the order of  Justice James H. Clarke and do whatever they want so can every other Canadian.  Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship sets by its example that any Christian can be lawless, liars, thieves, and perjurers and not respect the rule of law!
 
Read ( most of these past sites have been deleted someone did nto want you to read them)
Liars and Perjurers in Revival 
http://cnt10c.tripod.com/revival.pdf  
Todd Bentley
http://lionsmouth.tripod.com/todd.pdf  
The False Prophets” Oral and Richard Roberts “http://cnt10c.tripod.com/ or.htm
“The Fleecer” Rodney Howard Browne 
http://cnt10d.tripod.com/rodney.htm
“The Charlatan” Karl Strader  http://cnt10d.tripod.com/strader.htm
The Losers Randy and Paul White http://cnt10d.tripod.com/rw.htm
Down in Flames  http://cnt10d.tripod.com/rc.htm
The liar and thief Benny Hinn http://cnt10d.tripod.com/hinn.htm
“The felon” Jim Bakker http://cnt10d.tripod.com/bakker.htm
 “The Bishop” http://cnt10d.tripod.com/blong.htm
Evangelical Council of Financial Accountability  http://cnt10d.tripod.com/ecfa.htm
 “The Thieving CEO” Billy Graham http://cnt10.tripod.com/graham.htm
The Pentecostal God Fraud http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/religion/pentecostal/godfraud.shtml
Why is Pentecostalism a danger for Christianity?
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Critics-Protestantism-3427/Pentecostal-danger-Christianity.htm
TODD BENTLEY AND THE FLORIDA REVIVAL EXPOSED
http://www.cristianismobiblico.com/bentleyexposed.htm   

But thenonconformer says in reply  Hey this is a all still a big Joke.. and about the Pentecostal haters, bashers on the net presently.. The ongoing wars- one sided Religious discussions on Christianity – about the Bashers, Bullies, falsehoods, Hatred, liars, libel, Pentecostal Haters, Slander,  Walter Kambulow etc..

AT TIMES the Internet blogosphere lives up to its billing as the new frontier of FREEDOM OF SPEECH, religious and political discourse. But too often the blogs mainly still turn into an open sewer of rumors, lies, libels and adolescent  sins.
 
To get back at the evangelical pastors for failing to recognize him, and for their falsely counseling his wife sandy behind his back and without his knowledge, permission, Walter kambulow of Burlington Ontario in the last decade  had started a major holy religious war against the evangelical preachers in Canada and the US on the net, and next got   sued for 50 million dollars   in the Ontario Queen’s courts by some one claiming to be from the Toronto airport Christian fellowship church..  an ongoing court case still too, meanwhile the judge has also ordered all of Walter Kambulow posts to be removed of the net. and most of them have been rightfully removed.  Sadly Walter Kambulow has about 5 supporters on the net in the US , even at wordpress.com who also do gladly propagate also his hate materials too..  There sadly in the last few years has been an unholy internet religious war against Pentecostal pastors carried on by about 5 professing Fundamental Christian sites that profess to be promoting the truth .. Mind you these too often bad pastors certainly give them much reasons to do so..  But please note none of Walter Kambulow associates, friends, supporters that I have known, dealt with in the last few years are even really genuine, born again, godly persons, that alone should tell you something about Walter Kambulow and his posts. A man is certainly known by the company he keeps.. and I have written to each one of them and told them what they are doing is immoral, unchristian like.. but so far none are willing to repent of spreading hatred towards Pentecostal preachers, members especially

Now  about Walter  and this whole sad affair. No person who is a friend of Walter Kambulow can consider himself a godly person for sure.. most of the people who had worked with him find out shortly what he is like, Rev Russell Legasik included, a local pastor in my area I and Walter do know quite well too, and others.. Walter was forcibly removed from Bethel Baptist church for being a trouble maker, and forced to resign for the same reason from president of the Montreal FGBMFI as well.. Walter is a liar, a thieve, an abuser, a slanderer, a tax evader and much much more. Those who sin rebuke before all and those whom I love I chasten and rebuke as well
 
“Sarah Palin rightfully, openly condemned Barrack Obama  based on his associations, for a man is known by the friends he keeps, his associates, and anyone who claims to be an friend of that clearly unrepentant twin brother of mine Walter Kambulow is  bad person too.  The kettle calling the pot black now is shear hypocrisy on Walter Kambulow’s own part now as well.”
  
Now as you are aware by a present court order Walter is not allowed to access the internet with a computer, even though he has falsely twice broken this court order, and he is a real mafia at home in reality as I know.
 
There is no law that says I have to still allow or to accept quietly the false, unfair  abuse of even any of the  the Pentecostal Christians for that matter now as well anywhere world wide, even on the net.

Jer 46:28  But I will chasten {and} correct you in just measure, and I will not hold you guiltless by any means {or} leave you unpunished.

Jer 47:6 O you sword of the Lord, how long will it be before you are quiet?
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Jer 47:7 How can it [the sword of the Lord] be quiet when the Lord has given it an assignment to discharge?
 
(Micah 3:8 KJV)  But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.
 
(Micah 3:11 KJV)  The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the LORD, and say, Is not the LORD among us? none evil can come upon us.
 
(Prov 27:5 KJV)  Open rebuke is better than secret love.
 
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
 

Why is still so few Evangelical Pastors in Canada even can tell me the Biblical truth now in regard to? with out falsely even firstly bashing my own spirituality or slandering me? even  like Is there really such as thing as master of household now too?

At least half of my past Ministry has been marriage counseling, and it has often been my being forced to listen, to listen to the complaints about the wife or the husband.. and I often point our or ask does your spouse treat you the way you treat God also? One Complaint I often also hear is that the wife does not obey her Husband and the wife’s response is supposedly justified on the basis “cause he apparently does not love me or he would not give me orders.”Let me say that the Bible says that the wife is to obey her husband in all things and the husband is to love his wife, even if she does not obey him still. “The fact that the divorce rate is of epidemic proportions is an indication of Satan’s activity. As Satan worshipers gather for “prayer” meetings, one of the highest priorities on their prayer lists is for the break-up of marriages. Some of them even make it their “ministry” to go about breaking up marriages or “helping” people to become divorced. In this way he effectively keeps slapping God in the face with his own rebellion. These false worshipers “rejoice” when yet another marriage has ended up in divorce.

When Israel rebelled against God by turning to idols, God repeat- edly referred to it as “adultery.” (Jer 3:8) This is because God views His relationship with His own as a marriage. Full of intimacy. Charac- terizing commitment, loyalty, trust. Furthermore, the act of turning away from God is TREASONOUS! “Surely, as a wife treacherously departs from her husband, So have you dealt treacherously with Me, O house of Israel,” says the Lord.

 (Jer 3:20) When a spouse secretly schemes and runs off with a lover he/she has committed treason of the worst kind. Not only have they betrayed trust, but they mock God and His mandate. The “pattern and shadow” of things in heaven. The parallel to the heavenly relationship of the God- head. The representation of Christ’s intimate relationship with His “friends”…the Church. His Bride! ”

BELIEVERS TOO ARE OFTEN GUILTY OF TREASON AGAINST GOD! AND OF OTHER MAJOR SINS

All of us can take isolated Bible verses and almost justify, make any kind of conclusions that we want, and is that not so? or some falsely do divert the requested topic by making even false personal attacks and thus falsely hope to try avoid to discuss, to answer the posted questions. But still I we all, each one of us are according to the Bible to confirm everything with the Word of God, and not any mere men’s personal views? on an even fair, directly related scriptural context. let’s be fair in our Bible studies. The Bible says Christ is the head of the Church. The Husband is the head of the home. The wife is the head of what?? nothing? (1 Pet 3:1 KJV) ” Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; ” instead what is happening too often these days is this is no longer accepted as general valid today and why as well now? Before too many persons do falsely try to explain the Bible away the really should still first live it..

For another fact: To me it is really still funny that the secular British and US governmental laws recognize that the Husband is the head of the home, a man’s home is his castle, and that is legally wrong for others to personally meddle in a even Christian husband’s marriage, and they do recognize by law even that such transgressors can be sued in a court of law, but many Christians, even Pastors sadly don’t respect or follow this law clearly. And why is it now too often the case as even I know firsthand now? There are as I have seen, personally detailed before Christian internet sites too that to do ask the wife to list the husband’s sins, faults, without even the husband’s knowledge, behind his back. Can any Pastor, elder counsel falsely still a man’s wife without his knowledge, presence legally or morally?

I had found it hard to believe that some Christians at least would try to distort the truths, even such for example that “a wife was to obey her husband in all things”, without them seriously still next posting rather any full detailed valid scriptural substantiations, even in response.

As false rulers of my household Pastors even falsely said to me that a husband has to obey his wife, others used the out of context verse “submit on to another”.. to justify this well and furthermore does than also mean my wife has to submit now always to your wife in regard to our home, our marriage? now really!!! get real!!! and where does it end. And is this at all practical now too? Submit in love means rather to consider what is being said, taught by others? but still who does make the final family decisions and who is finally responsible for it according to the Bible and not to the false humanistic logic, wishful thinkings? The husband .

 

Yes we are to love another but not to meddle in other persons marriages, be partial or even false men or falsely become the false women libbers pleasers too

It is still all better if we really look at the Bible passages on rebellion to authority and how many tried to justify it in the BIBLE, Saul, and, Arron, Moses’s sister Miriam as well, and what happened to even Miriam too..

12:1 And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman.

( meddling in one’s married life falsely and clearly ehh)

2 And they said, Hath the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? hath he not spoken also by us? And the LORD heard it. 3 (Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.) 4 And the LORD spake suddenly unto Moses, and unto Aaron, and unto Miriam, Come out ye three unto the tabernacle of the congregation. And they three came out. 5 And the LORD came down in the pillar of the cloud, and stood in the door of the tabernacle, and called Aaron and Miriam: and they both came forth. 6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.

7 My servant Moses is not so, who is faithful in all mine house. 8 With him will I speak mouth to mouth, even apparently, and not in dark speeches; and the similitude of the LORD shall he behold: wherefore then were ye not afraid to speak against my servant Moses? 9 And the anger of the LORD was kindled against them; and he departed. 10 And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous. 11 And Aaron said unto Moses, Alas, my lord, I beseech thee, lay not the sin upon us, wherein we have done foolishly, and wherein we have sinned. 12 Let her not be as one dead, of whom the flesh is half consumed when he cometh out of his mother’s womb. 13 And Moses cried unto the LORD, saying, Heal her now, O God, I beseech thee. Numbers 12 Is there in Bible even now a stated clear valid reasons where a wife should not obey her husband on a temporary, permanent, general basis according to the Bible?

And who decides if the wife’s disobedience then is also valid, the wife only too?

Did not Esther the great grandmother of Jesus try to obey her husband in all things too?

Is there a denial by any prophet, or Jesus, not the apostles? that this King’s negative commandment of the Queen Vashiti’s banishment, divorce reason was wrong??? For a more detailed example was Queen Vashti right to try to rebel against her husband’s wishes? Note the passage

Esther 1:10 On the seventh day, when the heart of the king was merry with wine, he commanded Mehuman, Biztha, Harbona, Bigtha, and Abagtha, Zethar, and Carcas, the seven chamberlains that served in the presence of Ahasuerus the king, 11 To bring Vashti the queen before the king with the crown royal, to show the people and the princes her beauty: for she was fair to look on. 12 But the queen Vashti refused to come at the king’s commandment by his chamberlains: therefore was the king very wroth, and his anger burned in him. 13 Then the king said to the wise men, which knew the times, (for so was the king’s manner toward all that knew law and judgment: 14 And the next unto him was Carshena, Shethar, Admatha, Tarshish, Meres, Marsena, and Memucan, the seven princes of Persia and Media, which saw the king’s face, and which sat the first in the kingdom;) 15 What shall we do unto the queen Vashti according to law, because she hath not performed the commandment of the king Ahasuerus by the chamberlains?

15 What shall we do unto the queen Vashti according to law, because she hath not performed the commandment of the king Ahasuerus by the chamberlains? 16 And Memucan answered before the king and the princes, Vashti the queen hath not done wrong to the king only, but also to all the princes, and to all the people that are in all the provinces of the king Ahasuerus. 17 For this deed of the queen shall come abroad unto all women, so that they shall despise their husbands in their eyes, when it shall be reported, The king Ahasuerus commanded Vashti the queen to be brought in before him, but she came not. 18 Likewise shall the ladies of Persia and Media say this day unto all the king’s princes, which have heard of the deed of the queen. Thus shall there arise too much contempt and wrath. 19 If it please the king, let there go a royal commandment from him, and let it be written among the laws of the Persians and the Medes, that it be not altered, That Vashti come no more before king Ahasuerus; and let the king give her royal estate unto another that is better than she.

is this a valid Biblical Instruction now still to even all of us too? Christians too?

was not the rebellious act of Miriam opposed by God himself too?

What no believers are smart enough to deal with this topic you rather want the secular courts to deal with it still? that too is contrary to the Bible ehh

I corinthians 5:12 For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13 But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person. 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. 5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? 6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. 7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded? 8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren. 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God. 12 All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

Please do tell me if such discussions or such daily practical topics really now being discouraged falsely still?

(Jer 13:23 KJV) Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

(Prov 16:25 KJV) There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

and you can gladly reply to any of it providing you also quote the verses in full that you refer to.. thank you 

 

http://witnessed.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/slow-to-learn/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/too-often-false-bash-of-pentacostals-healers/

 

 

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  5. 50% of Sermons Are Not Biblical http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/archives/2006/02/_50_of_modern_s.php “Preaching the Gospel is not acceptable to living it. All pastors still do need to read the Bible for one hour a day at least, and pray for one hour a day at least. Almost 80 % of them do not. At least 50 percent of Church and TV, Internet sermons thus are unbiblical because most pastors do not use or read the Bible itself. Great, big Church pastors even steal their sermons from others as I have witnessed firsthand too. I interviewed personally 45 evangelical pastors in one city, Calgary Alberta, and none of them even used the Bible in their counseling ministry with their members and adherents. We have too many impostors, hirelings in the Ministry, bad persons not directly called by God to minister and that is why they also do cheat, lie, steal, commit adultery, tax evasions and abuse others, slander as well. Posted by: Paul Kambulow at April 16, 2006

    Now the supposedly Pentecostal liars of the TCAF a “family run and owned” religious nonprofit Corporations/organizations/ministries does still need to seriously repent of their lies and slanders and apologize for them for Walter Kambulow had never been kicked out from the Lasalle trinity Pentecostal church as they have claimed and the same bad Ontario pastors next even had bashed me for being divorced.. Unacceptable Do have the Ontario human rights commission prosecute them all for this too.

    Sunday December 16, 2007
    To the Prime Minster of Canada Stephen Harper

    Hey I admit it to you all that my own twin brother Walter was the one who had taught me on now to deal with the crooks in Canada.. Public exposure and prosecution of the guilty serves everyone’s best interest now also by writing letters… and he also said if I was being wrongfully abused I shout loudly shout rape so all can know about it too. Now my brother is also another bad unacceptable abuser, I do know that firsthand he robbed me, abused me, lied about me and slandered me etc..

    But when I see my brother Walter now using terms like Rape in his posts.. someone has really wrongfully abused him and I too would like to know who they are.. and what is rightfully being done about it too.

    Now you already do know about the past Calgary Christian center church, run by clearly the bad no good, slandering, thieving pastor David lagore, and family a Canadian Pentecostal “family run and owned” religious nonprofit church Corporation, organization, ministry as I had witnessed , detailed to the news media and the federal government too, that was investigated by the federal Government and others also and it’s incorporation was rightfully removed by the federal government too. So I am not surprised by these new allegations my brother now makes against the same Pentecostals groups, even the Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada.. Most people who attend an evangelical church and donate money to it do rightfully think it is a congregational church, owned and run by the members of the church and not shockingly to find next rather it is a dictatorial, one many ministry owned by the pastor himself.. a fact generally not disclosed or advertised to the donators.. so there is not real accountability of the bad pastor’s acts next as well.

    “Why is it that permissible for prominent Pentecostal Pastors such as TACF’s John Arnott and Steve Long to make and publish proven lies about a private individual and stranger Mr. Kambulow, a man of integrity, including:

    – Walter is as bad as they come ( as bad as his accusers? maybe more like it)
    -He has been disciplined by several churches in his past for rebellion and blames every and all churches he has every been a part of. ( this is a lie.. Walter has been disciplined in one church and forced to resign in another the FGBMFI )
    -The way that he slanders his wife in public is horrendous. ( Walter does not slander his wife Sandy in Public, the reference should be rather to my rightfully complaint how my own bad immoral, adulterous wife Norma Florence Kambulow who firstly has lied about me unsubstantiated in all of her divorce applications and you all have a copy of those letters of my complaints now too already.)
    -and if he had been a part of our church, which he wasn’t; I would be all over for him for slander. ;
    -He is not a part of our church so we are not responding to him-
    -He was a former member of TACF ( Neither he or i was)
    -He is divorced ( he is not rather his twin Brother Paul is the one divorced)

    Since when is this lying and slandering about us by the church pastors still permissible ?”

    Hey this is unacceptable fact to too many people have confused me and my twin brother and next even have wrongfully slandered about us in churches for the last 40 years.. starting with the clearly bad Christians at Bethel Baptist Church in Vile St. Lauren Quebec, next the bad Christians at the Calgary Christian Center.. where I was told I had been removed from being a member of the church, and yet I was never a member of it. I just lived across the street from it and attending it .. yes my own personally experiencing with too many bad evangelical pastors in Canada is they do lie, slander, gossip about me or my brother.. including the pastor at Trinity Pentecostal church Ken Bombay who next repent of it, asked for our forgiveness and we became friends with him.. The bad Pastor Rev Gordon Freeland Bethel Baptist Church had admitted to me that he was upset because he could not divide, or control me and my twin brother.

    >>… Iowa Sen. Chuck Grassley announced a Senate investigation into whether six televangelists violated their organizations’ tax-exempt status by living lavishly on the money small donors had contributed

    Me I had next wrote to you as well and have said that all the churches, corporations should be rightfully investigated, even for tax evasions, not just these six..

    and yes Walter uses the same approach he taught me to use, he write open letters and posts them openly on the net too.. http://www.richardcleaver.com/?cat=3 and http://cnt10.tripod.com/tblaw.htm

    Do deal with this all, rightfully these bad Canadian pastors. Let us all know what you have done about it too.

  6. No we ALL cannot STOP, take the ostrich approach under the guise of love to the definite bad acts of others, we as Christians are still called to be fruit inspectors of those who profess to be Christians ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY RARELY QUOTE IT in actual context OR LIVE THE BIBLE THEY CLAIM THEY BELIEVE IN-

    (Gen 31:42 KJV) Except the God of my father, the God of Abraham, and the fear of Isaac, had been with me, surely thou hadst sent me away now empty. God hath seen mine affliction and the labour of my hands, and rebuked thee yesternight.

    (Lev 19:17 KJV) Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

    (Neh 5:7 KJV) Then I consulted with myself, and I rebuked the nobles, and the rulers, and said unto them, Ye exact usury, every one of his brother. And I set a great assembly against them.

    (Psa 119:21 KJV) Thou hast rebuked the proud that are cursed, which do err from thy commandments.

    (Prov 24:25 KJV) But to them that rebuke him shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them.

    (Prov 27:5 KJV) Open rebuke is better than secret love.

    (Eccl 7:5 KJV) It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools.

    (Mat 17:18 KJV) And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour.

    (Mark 1:25 KJV) And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him.

    (Mark 4:39 KJV) And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.

    (Mark 8:33 KJV) But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men.

    (1 Tim 5:20 KJV) Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

    (2 Tim 4:2 KJV) Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

    (Titus 1:13 KJV) This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

    (Titus 2:15 KJV) These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

    (Heb 12:5 KJV) And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:

    (Rev 3:19 KJV) As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

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  11. Reference: “Fraud, Embezzlement, Illegal Tax Free Benefits By The Executives of Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship John Arnott and Steve Long

    Federal tax law prohibits religious leaders, as the heads of tax-exempt nonprofit institutions, from earning “unreasonable compensation.” It also prohibits tax-exempt organizations from providing “substantial benefit” to individuals – Kent Garber

    Canada has strong hate laws! And TACF words and lawsuit against Walter Kambulow and his family is a hate crime.

    Aird & Berlis did their Client Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship, John Arnott and Steve Long a disservice by trying to bury their “ financial and hate crimes” and by trying to destroy Mr. Kambulow, the whistleblower, using the court system instead of telling their client to come clean!

    To Whom It May Concern,

    Further to my letter of July 03, 2008 to the Crown Attorney for the Province of Ontario on the subject “Criminal Activities of Howard Winkler and Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship” I would like to bring to your attention for the immediate investigation of financial crimes and hate crimes by the executives of Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship John Arnott and Steve Long.

    We have here obvious Fraud, Embezzlement, Illegal Tax Free Benefits by the Executives of a religious nonprofit charity incorporated under federal statue using their nonprofit charity and pay off their own mortgage tax free and buy corvettes and charge anything they want to their charity? http://cnt10c.tripod.com/tb.htm?

    This is obviously a criminal activity because Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship is a religious nonprofit a corporation with John Arnott as the President and Steve Long as Vice President and as such cannot raise money for each other! But they have provided “substantial benefit” to themselves which is illegal and against the law and here it the proof in Steve Long letter posted at : http://www.fstdt.com/forums/thread.aspx?t=15245 and included below.

    And then these executives of Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship, John Arnott and Steve Long, have been using their “Bay Street” solicitors, who are charged directly to their nonprofit corporation, to harass a Canadian citizen, Walter Kambulow, Engineer, with an illegal $ 50 million lawsuit, contempt motions and threats and character assassination without every intending to go to trial just to shut up the Whistleblower?

    Since Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship is a Federal religious nonprofit religious charity and its financial and hate crime as detailed by Mr. Kambulow brief submitted to the Superior Court of Ontario in Brampton/Peel (See files on web http://rmtacf.tripod.com/walter1.pdf http://rmtacf.tripod.com/walter3.pdf and Liars and Perjurers in Revival http://tbtacf.tripod.com/revival.pdf ) it along with its executives must be investigated by the Federal Crown Attorney and it’s nonprofit charter removed by the Government of Canada!

    It is a fact that Mr.. Kambulow has on numerous occasions through various means has brought to the attention of the Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship and it’s Solicitors Aird & Berlis that Canada has strong hate laws and that “hate crimes and public remarks about a private individual Walter Kambulow” such as the one made on April 25, 2008 by the Vice President/Senior Pastor of Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship, Steve Long, are criminal:

    Walter is as bad as they come

    He has been disciplined by several churches in his past for rebelllion and blames every and all churches he has every been a part of.

    The way that he slanders his wife in public is horendous.

    and if he had been a part of our church, which he wasn’t; I wold be all over for him for slander. ;

    He is not a part of our chrch so we are not responding to him-

    And Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship, John Arnott and Steve Long have refused till this day to take back their hateful words or substantiate them and must be also charged with a hate crimes under the hate crime code of Canada. It is also a fact that their $ 50 million lawsuit against Walter Kambulow and his family is a hate crime.

    So I request that you and your colleagues take my complaints about Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship, John Arnott and Steve Long seriously and investigate them immediately for their real financial and hate crimes for the good of all Canadians as we cannot have this kind of crimes and lawlessness go unchallenged and unabated?

    Regards

    Walter Kambulow

    Cc The Honourable Robert Nicholson,Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada Fax (613) 954-0811
    Minister of Finance: Hon. James Michael FLAHERTY Fax 613 992-8356The Honourable Gordon O’Connor Minister of National Revenue Fax 613 952-6608
    Mr. William V. Baker Commissioner Canada Revenue Agency (CRA) 613 952-6608
    Canada Revenue Agency 905-984-4829
    Crown Attorney Provincial Fax 905-456-4780
    News Media
    File

    Help A Pastor Pay His Mortgage!

    Federal tax law prohibits religious leaders, as the heads of tax-exempt nonprofit institutions, from earning “unreasonable compensation.” It also prohibits tax-exempt organizations from providing “substantial benefit” to individuals – Kent Garber

    http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/national/2008/02/15/investigating-televangelist-finances_print.htm

    Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship is a religious nonprofit a corporation with John Arnott as the President and Steve Long as Vice President and as such cannot raise money for each other! But they have provided “substantial benefit” to themselves which is illegal and against the law and here it the proof in Steve Long letter posted at : http://www.fstdt.com/forums/thread.aspx?t=15245.

    #187934 Help a Pastor Pay His Mortgage!

    I received this letter a few years ago, and for some odd reason, namely fair use, I decided not to make this public. Then, a few days ago, I figured “why not” and have decided to share this wonderful little letter with you. Isn’t it great that you can help someone pay his $100,000 mortgage for being such a Godly man!

    Dear friend,

    Let me share with you a great opportunity to honour someone!

    I am writing on behalf of Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship to let you know our Senior Pastor, John Arnott is about to have a birthday. Not only is he having a birthday, but this next one is when he turns 65! John’s birthday is on Christmas day, December 25th, 2005.

    Earlier this year, some of the guys in John’s cell met to talk about how to honour John on this special day. We had some ideas. We thought of sending John and Carol on a trip. No, they already travel too much. We thought of buying John a corvette as he often talks of owning a sports car.

    Well, being a married man, I have learned that the safest thing to do is talk to a woman. So I talked to Carol and told her that we wanted to honour John in some way. Carol thought the idea was great and she began to probe as to what John would like to do next year id he had any extra money..

    At almost every discussion she had, John stated that he would love to pay off their house mortgage and be personally debt free. For those of you who don’t attend TACF, let me tell you a little tradition that John began 5 years ago.

    My wife Sandra had a dream many years ago about us getting a house. In the Toronto area, like in other cities, if you don’t have two incomes, you usually can’t afford a house. We made the choice for Sandra to stay home while our children were small, meaning that we rented a house. One day the Lord spoke to us about our home and said that if we were to give away towards someone else’s home that He would give us one.

    We were already in debt on our credit card and this was really a step of faith. We borrowed $1,000 and asked God to bless our gift a with a 100% increase. The very night we gave away the seed, John Arnott had a dream about helping us buy a house! Several weeks later, John took a second offering for us at TACF to help us buy a home.

    There was no notice given ahead of time and it was a holiday weekend. Our church family enthusiastically responded and gave us $102,000 and the keys to a car! Amazing!

    Well, since then we have taken second offerings about once a year for our pastors who don’t have a house. We have been able to bless John and Patricia Bootsma (now pastoring John and Carol’s first congregation in Stratford ON), Darrin and Daphne Clarke (our children’s pastors), Will and Madeline Walker (they headed up our Prayer and Care department) and Stuart and Lynley Allan (operations and prophetic).

    So, to say happy birthday to John, Carol is suggesting that we also help them to pay off their home. They have a little over $100,000 left on their mortgage and we would love to surprise John on Christmas Sunday by burning their mortgage. If there is more money than we need, we can also get him the car!

    Included in this letter is an envelope for you to send a birthday gift to John and Carol. Please make cheque payable to “Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship”. If you live in Canada or America, we are able to provide a tax receipt for you. If you want your gift to be tax free to John, please specify that you do not require a tax receipt for your gift.

    Ideally, we are looking to have all the gifts returned to us by December 15th so that we can head tot he bank with Carol to pay off the mortgage.

    There are two other things I’d like you to join with us on. The first is that we are putting together a massive birthday card for John. We would love to include your greeting to John. We are asking that you send a note, no longer than 50 words, to my e-mail address at tacf.org If you don’t have e-mail, you are welcome to include a note with your gift.

    The second item that we’d like you to include is a photograph of yourself so that John is able to identify you. Many of you he knows by name, but there are far more of you who know him. If you can add the photo to the email, that would be ideal, otherwise it can also be included in the envelope.

    Would you join us at TACF in honoring John Arnott? John for many of you has become a spiritual father, He and Carol has blessed you through their conference ministry, itinerant travel and television ministry. Many of you have had John and Carol pray for you and impart our Father’s blessings.

    I am looking forward to a very busy December as our team put together this birthday card! I look forward to hearing from you and receiving your photo, your greeting and your gift towards paying off John’s mortgage! Remember this is a surprise so no talking to John!

    Bless you and thank you for letting me share on behalf of the congregation at Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship.

    Steve Long
    Senior Associate Pastor. (TACF)

    You may shred at will!

    Letter submitted to the Superior Court of Ontario

    July 2, 2008

    Ontario Superior Court of Justice
    70 Wellington St.
    Brantford, Ontario
    N3T 2L9

    Re Kambulow vs Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship et al. v Court File DC-08-033-00

    A liar, perjurer and scoundrel such as Howard Winkler is not qualified to represent proven liars, thieves an perjurers such as Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship, John Arnott and Stephen Long or maybe he is?

    Attention: Presiding Justice for July 16, 2008 Return of Motion

    SUBJECT: DISQUALIIFICATION OF HOWARD WINKLER FROM THE CASE

    You Honor

    Mr. Kambulow, the Plaintiff, requests that Howard Winkler, Senior Solicitor, representing Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship, John Arnott, and Steve Long, be immediately removed by the Court from any lawsuit involving Walter Kambulow, for being a liar and a perjurer as demonstrated by his words before Justice Mossip on June 6,2008 in regard to Kambulow vs TACF.

    Mr. Kambulow wrote to the Prime Minster of Canada the Honorable Stephen Harper of April 22, 2008, as well as the Government of Canada and the news media, and stated:

    Mr. Kambulow would be more than pleased to give concrete examples of all this to the Superior Court of Ontario of their lawlessness and lies including the fact that on January 15, 2008 TACF’s Solicitor Pamela Miehls promised Justice Clark to give Mr. Kambulow within ten days a statement of defense as ordered by Justice Clarke in regard to Kambulow v Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship et al

    http://tacf.tripod.com/transcriptjc.pdf

    Page 24

    THE COURT: So you’re going to do your Statement of Defence, you’re going to serve him by email, …

    MS. MIEHLS: Correct.

    Page 27

    THE COURT: Transferring to Toronto — okay, thank you – and consolidating. Okay, I’ve got it. I’m going to make that order.

    Now, with regard to the Statement of Defence to be served and filed by email, as agreed, within ten days of today’s order?

    MS. MIEHLS: That’s fine, Your Honour.

    And later TACF’s Solicitor, Howard Winkler, a litigation specialist, lied and told the Superior Court Justice Mossip on June 6,2008 that TACF, John Arnott and Stephen Long never promised to serve and file by email a Statement of Defense to Walter Kambulow as ordered by Justice Clarke on January 15, 2008. Amazing how Mr. Winkler could lie so freely in court?

    It also appears to the Plaintiff, Mr. Kambulow, that Howard Winkler is the Architect of a $ 50 million dollar lawsuit against the Plaintiff that is based on proven lies and perjury! The attached “Factum of the Plaintiff” dated July 4, 2008 has evidence to lies, perjury, thievery and criminal activities of the Plaintiff’s including financial and hate!

    In their lawsuit filed in the Superior Court of Ontario in Toronto, Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship et al. v Kambulow Court File 07-CV-342052PD3 the Plaintiffs stated THAT TACF AND IT’S PASTORS

    have suffered and will continue to suffer damages, their character and reputation, personally and in the way of their profession, office or calling, have wrongly been brought into public disrepute, their public and general reputation has been and will continue to be seriously damaged, and they have been subjected to embarrassment, ridicule and contempt.

    have had and will continue to have a detrimental effect on the ability of TACF to continue to serve its members and on the ability of Amott and Long to continue to perform their work as pastors

    Mr. Kambulow wrote on June 25, 2008 TO THE GOVERNMENT OF CANADA Prime Minister Stephen Harper and the news media on the subject: How can proven thieves, liars, perjurers, backstabbers, cowards and Pastors of Canadian nonprofit charity Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship sue anybody or talk about the law or justice? and pointed out:

    THE LIE AND PERJURY HERE IS THAT Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship and it’s Pastors John Arnott and Steve Long have not suffered and continued to suffer damages, their character and reputation, personally and in the way of their profession, office or calling, have wrongly been brought into public disrepute, their public and general reputation has been and will continue to be seriously damaged, and they have been subjected to embarrassment, ridicule and contempt AND COULD NOT AND WOULD NOT GIVE THE COURT ANY PROOF THAT THEIR STATEMENT OF CLAIM AS TRUE.

    THE LIE AND PERJURY HERE IS THAT the emails and words of Walter Kambulow about Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship and it’s Pastors John Arnott and Steve Long have had no detrimental effect on the ability of TACF to continue to serve its members and on the ability of Amott and Long to continue to perform their work as pastors AND COULD NOT AND WOULD NOT GIVE THE COURT ANY PROOF THAT THEIR STATEMENT OF CLAIM AS TRUE.

    Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship John Arnott and Steve Long deliberately and willful gave false, misleading, or incomplete testimony under oath to the court to try and silence and destroy Walter Kambulow because he was telling the world that TACF corporation was John Arnott’s cash cow to support his lavish lifestyle.

    SO HOW CAN SO CALLED MEN ON GOD MEN OF INTEGRITY DELIBERATELY LIE AND PERJURY THEMSELVES IN A LEGAL DOCUMENT UNDER OATH TO THE COURT ABOUT THINGS THAT NEVER HAPPENED?????

    They are not men of God, men of integrity but liars, thieves and perjurers who used and use their personal family owned and run Pentecostal charity to pay off their own mortgages and buy themselves new cars – see http://cnt10c.tripod.com/tb.htm

    The attached “Factum of the Plaintiff” dated July 4, 2008 also discusses the TACF DIRTY TRICKS AND LIES IN COURT TRIAGES AND MOTIONS that were done by Howard Winkler on behalf of Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship, John Arnott and Stephen Long.

    Mr. Kambulow also wrote on June 25, 2008 TO THE GOVERNMENT OF CANADA Prime Minister Stephen Harper and the news media on the subject: Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship, John Arnott, Steve Long and their supporters continue to believe in and practice lying and lawlessness which pointed out Howard Winkler’s lie and perjury amongst other things!

    Hence Howard Winkler proven lying words and unscrupulous deeds disqualify him from this court case or any other case involving Mr. Kambulow as it is obvious he has no morals or qualm about doing negative things to achieve a desired end! And we cannot have this kind of thing in Ontario Superior Court of Justice otherwise the Justice tacitly by doing nothing approve lawlessness, injustice and immorality?

    As a result, Mr. Kambulow requests Mr. Howard Winkler be immediately disbarred from the Court by your Honor for this motion or any other matter concerning Mr. Walter Kambulow as we cannot have in Canada Solicitors taking their liberty to openly lie to Superior Court Justices just to win their case and ignore seeing true justice come about!

    Walter Kambulow
    http://www.moriel.org/articles/discernment/church_issues/fraud_embezzlement_illegal_benefits.htm

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  16. Re: ” Obama’s pastor has Tampa ties to Racist
    Bible Based Fellowship Church in Carrollwood Tampa Florida

    Date: Mar 22, 2008 6:11 AM
    Obama’s pastor has Tampa ties
    By Sharon Tubbs, Times Staff Writer

    Published Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:15 PM

    TAMPA – Angela Judge listens to talk show hosts and TV pundits who dismiss the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. as an angry black man, spewing hatred in America.
    She has cried and prayed for it all to end.
    The man in the TV clips, portrayed as Sen. Barack Obama’s “controversial pastor,” is not the same man she came to know watching him preach in Tampa, where he has long-standing ties.
    For years, Wright has made an annual pilgrimage here, packing sanctuaries at two large, predominantly African-American churches: Bible-Based Fellowship Church in Carrollwood and Bible-Based Fellowship Church of Temple Terrace, which draw members from throughout the Tampa Bay area. Even those who aren’t members have flocked to his local revivals.
    Indeed, Wright, 66, is the featured speaker at a revival Tuesday through Thursday of next week, in celebration of the Temple Terrace church’s 10th anniversary.
    The Democratic presidential candidate has come under fire for his association with Wright and in a speech Tuesday he disavowed inflammatory statements Wright has made.
    But the Rev. Earl B. Mason Sr., who lovingly refers to Wright as “Daddy J.,” said Wednesday that Wright was still expected to come and would be welcomed, as always.
    “Tampa, Florida, is not hostile to Jeremiah Wright, not based on an article or not based on somebody else’s opinion,” Mason said. “Tampa, Florida, has been blessed by Jeremiah for well over 15 consecutive years.”
    Wright’s link to the area started 25 years ago when Mason and the Rev. Arthur T. Jones took part in a religious conference in Orlando as part of the Florida Mass Choir. Wright, slight in stature but bold and dynamic in his delivery, took to the pulpit at the conference. Mason, who had never heard the name before, would never forget it.
    After that, Wright was asked to speak at the choir’s retreats and, in years to come, at the two churches.
    Before establishing the Temple Terrace church, Mason was co-pastor with Jones at the Carrollwood church. Today, the congregations are independent of each other and among the larger predominantly black churches in the area. Jones and Mason said they don’t keep official membership tallies, but the Carrollwood church’s cathedral seats 1,700 and the Temple Terrace church seats several hundred and has two services each Sunday.
    Wright gained a loyal following among local Christians like Judge, a member of the Carrollwood church. People would often arrive early, expecting a packed house. His affable personality and intellectual, yet thunderous, approach to Scripture are signature to his style. He is known to sprinkle his messages with some points on social justice.
    ‘Like an uncle’
    Once when she traveled to Chicago, Judge visited Wright’s Trinity United Church of Christ. He remarked from the pulpit that there was a visitor from Tampa. After service, they chatted and joked for 2½ hours.
    “I understand what Obama meant when he said he’s like an uncle,” said Judge, 45.
    Deborah Austin, now a member of a New Tampa church, said she was first exposed to Wright in Carrollwood. Eventually, he became her mentor, helping and challenging her as she worked toward a doctorate in interpersonal-family communications. He often talked about the need to help oppressed people worldwide.
    “I have been praying for him, thinking good thoughts of him,” Austin said.
    The excerpts from Wright’s sermons aired on television have been called unpatriotic at best. In one, he appears to blame the United States for the Sept. 11 attacks. In another he says the government is responsible for the spread of HIV.
    The comments didn’t shock many black people who say Wright’s critics are essentially attacking the black church, where African-Americans for years have always felt safe in voicing concerns about social issues, said Gwendolyn Simmons, assistant professor of religion at the University of Florida.
    “It is a place where black people have been able to say what they felt,” Simmons said.
    Judge said she has heard Wright’s controversial statements before.
    What about context?
    “I have been in services when Dr. Wright has gotten to that fiery point,” Judge said. She wasn’t bothered because she heard his words in context and many times agreed. Sometimes, she didn’t. But, Judge said, who agrees with everything someone else says?
    “Jeremiah is my friend and my mentor and he’s my daddy,” said Mason, 56. “I was angry to see someone take snippets of a 2003 sermon and use it in 2008, and use it to discredit a man like Wright, a church like Trinity and a campaign like Obama’s.”
    Jones said his Carrollwood church and Wright’s church have both engaged in outreach in Africa. Bible-Based has built schools and churches in the continent, Jones said.
    While the “black liberation theology” Wright preaches is not at the forefront of sermons at Bible-Based, black values are taught and upheld there, Jones said. Wright, he said, will “stand in the pulpit and say it just like I’ll stand in the pulpit and say it.”
    If people want to know what Wright is all about, Jones said, “buy his books, read his sermons. He is a speaker of truth.”

    Extract from Shepherd or Despot? By Walter Kambulow

    Bible Based Fellowship Church in Carrollwood was one of the largest and wealthiest black congregations in Tampa, Florida and to some the most racist black church in the South. White folks were not welcomed in the church. The $3 million church was built on 10 1/2 acres, has 26 ministries and funded three West African churches and was run almost by military rule by Rev. Earl Mason and Art Jones.

    Brother Jones boasted of obtaining a doctorate from Ohio’s United Theological Seminary which turned out to be a lie. He also had been criticized for operating Bible-Based like a corporation rather than a church. The church had no deacon board and was run like an autocracy.

    Jones and Mason solely controlled the money and were very tight lip about finances, their own and that of the church’ but they both drove fancy luxury cars. They had labeled members who spoke up against them as “Satan” and reminded others who didn’t like the way they did things that “this is my church.” Mason told members questioning his authority to “go to hell.”

    Assistant ministers have gone through a revolving door in the Bible- Based Fellowship Church. Ruth Hunter, the chief financial officer of the church was convicted of embezzling more than $35,000 from a Clearwater bank. Mason and Jones refused to fire her even though she had been proven to be a thief. Members complained that the pastors checked to see if people pay their tithes every Sunday. Those who didn’t pay their tithes didn’t get support from the church. Yet this was a Bible Believing Bible Based Christian Fellowship that did things which Jesus Christ would never do?

    In theory Apostle Paul told all those who are called themselves Christians, including pastors and preachers, “in lowliness of mind let each esteem others better than himself? Let each of you look out not only for his own interests, but also for the interests of others?” In other words doctrinal emphasis were not to overrule the best interests of others! For the bible also states:

    “Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. Acts 20:28
    The elders who are among you I exhort, I who am a fellow elder and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that will be revealed: Shepherd the flock of God which is among you, serving as overseers, not by compulsion but willingly, not for dishonest gain but eagerly; nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock; and when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that does not fade away. 1 Peter 5:1-4

    The bible says that overseers are to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood by being examples to the flock and not by being Lords over those entrusted to them nor for dishonest gain. However, the size of the church or its theology does not determine whether its pastor or priest will be a gentle shepherd or an autocratic tyrant. There are still those pastors and priests who have not realized that their days of “do what I say or else God will strike you down” are numbered. Their words of “touch not God’s anointed” are falling on deaf ears. God’s true anointed ones do not rob, rape or use the sheep. Sheep today prefer to be led by example rather than to be driven by brute force or beaten into submission by use of bible verses.

    Walter Kambulow
    Burlington Ontario

    Disclaimer: The views expressed in this article are the sole responsibility of the author. If you have a problem with the correctness of the information, please contact the author.

    (In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes.)

    Cephas Ministry Inc. (www.cephasministry.com)” http://www.cephas-library.com/obamas_pastors_ties_to_racist_bible_based_fellowship_church.html

    I personally still do not recommend this ministry from my own experiences, they seem to be one sided bashers and liars too. They all like us have a free speech right.. to be heard too..

    and do note that most of Walter’s many past posts on the net now many of them have been removed from the net, “The page you are attempting to access has been removed because it violated Tripod’s Terms of Service. Please check out Tripod’s Help system for more information. ”

    and there is a present temporary Ontario Queen’s court injunction prohibiting Walter to post them presently too.

    see also http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/08/31/you-know-the-commandments/

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